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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:46 pm    Post subject: Set XY_02 Puzzle 5 -- Advanced |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +-----------------------+ | 8 . . | . 4 . | . . . |
 | . . 3 | . . 5 | . . . |
 | . 2 4 | . . 8 | . . 9 |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | 7 . . | . 3 8 |
 | 4 . . | . 6 2 | . 5 . |
 | . 9 2 | . 8 . | 6 4 . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | . . 9 | . . . |
 | . . . | 4 7 6 | . . . |
 | . . 7 | 8 . . | . . 4 |
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  	  | Code: |  	  | c9b6  Naked  Pair                     <> 17   [r1278c9] r4  b4  Naked  Triple                   <> 156  [r5c23],[r6c1]
 b3  Naked  Triple                   <> 126  [r1c79]
 r1  b3  Naked  Pair                     <> 35   [r1c4]
 c8b3  Locked Candidate 1              <> 1    [r89c8]
 
 XY-Wing  [r2c9]/[r2c5]+[r3c8]   <> 1    [r3c45]
 
 Skyscraper      c26r9           <> 3    [r5c4],[r6c1]
 Skyscraper      c24r5           <> 3    [r7c1],[r9c6]   extraneous
 turbot fish/ER  c6b4            <> 3    [r9c2]          extraneous
 
 Empty Rectangle c8b1            <> 6    [r9c1]
 
 W-Wing: 2/9 in r1c4,r8c8 connected by 9 in r18c3 => r1c8<>2
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 |  8    16   169* | *29   4    7    |  35   26   35   |
 |  69   7    3    |  29   1    5    |  4    8    26   |
 |  5    2    4    |  6    3    8    |  7    1    9    |
 |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------|
 |  16   156  156  |  7    9    4    |  2    3    8    |
 |  4    3    8    |  1    6    2    |  9    5    7    |
 |  7    9    2    |  5    8    3    |  6    4    1    |
 |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------|
 |  126  4    156  |  3    25   9    |  8    7    256  |
 |  239  8    59*  |  4    7    6    |  1   *29   235  |
 |  239  56   7    |  8    25   1    |  35   269  4    |
 +-----------------------------------------------------+
 # 35 eliminations remain
 
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		| gindaani 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| After the basics: 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | +----------------+--------------+--------------+
 | 8     16   169 | 1269 4    7  | 35  126 35   |
 | 1679  167  3   | 1269 12   5  | 4   8   26   |
 | 5     2    4   | 136  13   8  | 7   16  9    |
 +----------------+--------------+--------------+
 | 16    156  156 | 7    9    4  | 2   3   8    |
 | 4     37   8   | 13   6    2  | 9   5   17   |
 | 37    9    2   | 5    8    13 | 6   4   17   |
 +----------------+--------------+--------------+
 | 1236  4    156 | 123  1235 9  | 8   7   2356 |
 | 1239  8    159 | 4    7    6  | 135 29  235  |
 | 12369 1356 7   | 8    1235 13 | 135 269 4    |
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  	  | Quote: |  	  | 3 skyscraper 261 xy-wing
 69-92-26-62-29-95-56
 6 skyscraper
 
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:08 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| An enjoyable three-stepper. 
 Coloring (3), XY-Wing (261) and W-Wing (29) with pincer transport.
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		| gindaani 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:31 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I'm guessing your W-Wing (29) with pincer transport is the same as my XY chain 69-92-26-62-29-95-56.   The chain resulted in r1c2<>6, r79c1<>6.  Is that the same eliminations your W-wing made? 
 I still needed a skyscraper (6) to finish it after that.
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:55 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| My 29 cells were in r8c8 and r2c4, linked by the 2s in row 1. The 9 was transported from r2c4 to r1c3 via r1c4 and the 9 from r8c3 was eliminated. |  | 
	
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		| storm_norm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| gindaani, that is a nice xy-chain.
 if you were at all curious, FWIW the chain can be shortened.
 
 (6=2)r1c8 - (2=9)r8c8 - (9=5)r8c2 - (5=6)r9c2
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| A slightly different, but similar three stepper: skyscraper 2,
 skyscraper 3,
 w-wing 29 at r2c4 & r8c8 with strong link 2 in box3 and 9 at r8c8 transported to r9c1 via r9c8.
 
 Ted
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		| gindaani 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | storm_norm wrote: |  	  | if you were at all curious, FWIW the chain can be shortened. 
 (6=2)r1c8 - (2=9)r8c8 - (9=5)r8c2 - (5=6)r9c2
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 The shorter chain does not eliminate 6 from r7c1, which is necessary to set up the skyscraper (6) to solve the puzzle.  With the shorter chain, I needed at least 1 extra step.
 
 
  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | My 29 cells were in r8c8 and r2c4, ... to r1c3 via r1c4 and the 9 from r8c3 was eliminated. | 
 
 That's a really nice move!
 
 It can be stated in Eureka as:
 
 (9=2)r8c8 - (2)r1c8 = (2)r1c4 - (2=9)r2c4 - (9)r1c4 = (9)r1c3
 
 That could be shortened to the chain:
 
 (9=2)r8c8 - (2)r1c8 = (2-9)r1c4 = (9)r1c3
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		| storm_norm 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | The shorter chain does not eliminate 6 from r7c1 | 
 I have to stop staying up so late.
 for some unknown reason my brain tried telling me that the 6 you were eliminating was in box 1...
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