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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 3:10 am    Post subject: Puzzle 10/03/07 ___ BBDB as VH+ puzzle | 
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 | 8 1 . | 3 7 . | . . 2 |
 
 | 3 . . | . . 1 | 7 . . |
 
 | . . 7 | . . . | . . . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | 7 . . | . . 6 | 5 . . |
 
 | 5 . . | . 9 . | 2 . . |
 
 | . 9 . | 5 . 4 | . . . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | . 4 . | 7 2 . | 1 8 . |
 
 | . . . | . . . | 4 . 5 |
 
 | 2 . . | . . . | . 9 . |
 
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		tlanglet
 
 
  Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Well, I never hit the sweet spot using VH+ steps on this puzzle; it took me a total of ten moves! It was fun working it given all the moves that seemed possible but they never were overly fruitful.
 
 
I used several x-wings, Type 1 UR, w-wings, xy-wings, a kite and one coloring step.
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
  Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 5770 Location: Rochester, NY, USA
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:48 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Heh heh, once again I lose the number-of-moves competition. This was a 12-stepper. There was the usual assortment of commonly used moves, plus three XY-Chains, which Ted didn't mention.
 
 
As a BBDB, it was very aptly named. | 
			 
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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Yes, my solver's solution showed a succession of steps that were not impressive individually, but the cumulative effect was impressive. The UR Type 1 in the middle of the solution was the closest thing to a "surprise" that I saw.
 
 
Thanks Marty and Ted for battling your way through the puzzle!
 
 
Regards, Danny | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
  Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:18 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Marty R. wrote: | 	 		  Heh heh, once again I lose the number-of-moves competition. This was a 12-stepper. There was the usual assortment of commonly used moves, plus three XY-Chains, which Ted didn't mention.
 
 
As a BBDB, it was very aptly named. | 	  
 
 
Marty, since this was posted as a VH+ puzzle I did not look for chains.
 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject:  | 
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Marty, since this was posted as a VH+ puzzle I did not look for chains.  | 	  
 
Ted, I generally don't try to include/exclude any particular moves. I just take each puzzle and try to solve it as best I can. Which, by the way, is not meant to be critical of anyone who chooses to use the moves associated with the puzzle's rating. | 
			 
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		oaxen
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:41 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				A thread starting with "5" in r1c6 makes it a one stepper.
 
A "5" in r1c3 shows after a few steps to be impossible. | 
			 
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