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		daj95376
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:16 pm    Post subject: Puzzle 10/10/28: B XY | 
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				 	  | Code: | 	 		   +-----------------------+
 
 | 1 . . | . . . | . . 6 |
 
 | . 7 . | . . . | 3 . . |
 
 | . . 2 | . 3 . | . . . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | . . . | . 7 . | . 3 1 |
 
 | . . 6 | 1 9 . | 5 . . |
 
 | . . . | . . 4 | 6 9 . |
 
 |-------+-------+-------|
 
 | . 4 . | . 2 9 | . 6 . |
 
 | . . . | 4 . 6 | 9 7 3 |
 
 | 3 . . | 7 . . | . 4 8 |
 
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		storm_norm
 
 
  Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 1741
 
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject:  | 
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				sis on 8's in row 3 can solve this puzzle.
 
 
 	  | Code: | 	 		  +------------------+---------------+-------------------+
 
| 1    359    35   | 259  4  7(8)  | 7(8)   25      6  |
 
| 459  7      48   | 259  6  (18)  | 3      1258    29 |
 
| 6    59(8)  2    | 59   3  7(18) | 47(8)  5(1-8)  49 |
 
+------------------+---------------+-------------------+
 
| 59   59     4(8) | 6    7  2     | 4-8    3       1  |
 
| 47   2(8)   6    | 1    9  3     | 5      28      47 |
 
| 27   13     13   | 8    5  4     | 6      9       27 |
 
+------------------+---------------+-------------------+
 
| 8    4      7    | 3    2  9     | 1      6       5  |
 
| 25   125    15   | 4    8  6     | 9      7       3  |
 
| 3    6      9    | 7    1  5     | 2      4       8  |
 
+------------------+---------------+-------------------+ | 	  
 
 
looks like this.
 
kraken row 3 on 8's... r4c7 <> 8
 
 
(8)r3c2 - (8)r5c2 = (8)r4c3 
 
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(8)r3c6 - (8)r1c6 = (8)r1c7
 
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(8)r3c7
 
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(8)r3c8 - (1)r3c8 = (1)r3c6 - (1=8)r2c6 - (8)r1c6 = (8)r1c7
 
 
 
also note that the part in red eliminates the 8 in r3c8 | 
			 
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		tlanglet
 
 
  Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Chasing more ADPs...............
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  Type 4 UR(78)r13c67 x-wing overlay 7; r3c67<>8
 
internal SIS r3c6=1,r3c7=8: (8=1)r2c6-AUR(78)r13c67[(1)r3c6=(4)r3c7]-(4=8)r4c7-r4c3=(8)r2c3; r2c8<>8
 
This step demonstrates that it is possible to get additional deletions to standard Type "n" URs but the entire step is not necessary to complete this puzzle.
 
 
BUG-Lite+2 (135)r168c23 internal SIS r1c2=9,r8c2=2
 
BUG-Lite(135)r168c23[(9)r1c2=(2)r8c2]-(2=5)r8c1-(5=9)r4c1; r4c2<>9
 
 
No more useful ADPs, but a short extension of the vertex of a potential xy-wing does the trick: (8=9)r3c2-(9=3)r1c2-(3=5)r1c3-(5=2)r1c8-(2=8)r5c8; r5c2<>8
 
 
As an alternate one step solution.....
 
 
Flightless w-wing (25)r1c8,r8c1 SL (5)r18c3 plus transport (2)r8c1-r6c1=(2)r5c2;r5c8<>2 | 	  
 
Ted
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		tlanglet
 
 
  Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 2468 Location: Northern California Foothills
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:36 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | storm_norm wrote: | 	 		  sis on 8's in row 3 can solve this puzzle.
 
 
looks like this.
 
kraken row 3 on 8's... r4c7 <> 8
 
 
(8)r3c2 - (8)r5c2 = (8)r4c3 
 
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(8)r3c6 - (8)r1c6 = (8)r1c7
 
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(8)r3c7
 
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(8)r3c8 - (1)r3c8 = (1)r3c6 - (1=8)r2c6 - (8)r1c6 = (8)r1c7
 
 
 
also note that the part in red eliminates the 8 in r3c8 | 	  
 
 
Norm, I truly enjoy your "uncommon" pattern steps   
 
 
Ted | 
			 
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		peterj
 
 
  Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Posts: 974 Location: London, UK
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				 Posted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I initially had an xy-chain ... but that's not good enough to keep up with Ted and Norm! So an ADP move...
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  6-cell ADP(59) r2c14|r3c24|r4c12 ; r2c9<>2
 
(2)r2c4 
 
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(4)r2c1 - (4=7)r5c1 - (7=2)r6c1 - (2=5)r8c1 - r8c3=r1c3 - (5=2)r1c8
 
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(8)3c2 - r5c2=(8-2)r5c8=r6c9 
 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:23 am    Post subject:  | 
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				W-Wing (28); r6c123<>8 (move probably not needed)
 
DP (13-15-35) boxes 147; r8c2<>2 due to invalidity | 
			 
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