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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:11 pm    Post subject: Probable stupid question |   |  
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				| Have you ever seen an invalid puzzle published by a legitimate site? |  | 
	
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I've seen numerous Windoku puzzles posted with Sudoku in the title. The only way I could tell the difference was the shading on the four additional "boxes" used in a Windoku puzzle. Many of these puzzles have been posted in the Help section of the Players' Forums. The airline magazines are notorious for making this mistake. |  | 
	
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Thanks Danny. I was wondering about the sites that are commonly mentioned around here, like Brain Bashers, Menneske, Vanhegan and the like. |  | 
	
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		| peterj 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:15 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Marty, I have never found an invalid one on these mainstream sites - and I usually use SimpleSudoku which checks... 
 Here is a famous one that was carved into a hill near the M4 (a major "freeway") in the UK...
 
   
 ... sadly it had 1,905 solutions, bit of a waste of an ancient chalk hillside
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		| Marty R. 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:11 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That's certainly the first hillside one I've heard of.  |  | 
	
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:01 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Marty, 
 If you search on 'pseudo sudoku' you will find invalid puzzles: Those with many, or no, solutions.
 
 Keith
 
 PS:  Currently spending a week in London, courtesy of BAA and BA.  On the last flight to land at Heathrow before it was closed on Saturday.
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		| keith 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:00 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Marty R. wrote: |  	  | Thanks Danny. I was wondering about the sites that are commonly mentioned around here, like Brain Bashers, Menneske, Vanhegan and the like. | 
 Marty,
 
 The worst transgression I have seen from these sites is to misclassify the difficulty of a puzzle.  "Very Hard" does not require advanced moves, for example.  That happens occasionally (once per year?) on this site.
 
 There was a thread "Sudokus of shame" on the old Players' Forum that collected invalid puzzles and their sources.
 
 A few years ago I noticed that the Sudoku section of about.com had invalid puzzles.  I told them, and the puzzles were replaced with valid ones.
 
 Keith
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		| Pat 
 
 
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