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		Clement
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: April 17 VH | 
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				| XY-Wing 19 18 89 pivoted in r5c1 solves it by setting r9c9<>9. | 
			 
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		Ema Nymton
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject:  | 
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The solution "XY-Wing 19 18 89 pivoted in r5c1 solves it by setting r9c9<>9." not withstanding, a question comes up.
 
 
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| 4   8    1  | 25 7  59 | 239 6   239  |
 
| 3   259  57 | 26 1  69 | 279 8   4    |
 
| 279 29   6  | 8  4  3  | 5   129 1279 |
 
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| 27  2456 9  | 1  36 8  | 237 245 237  |
 
| 18  14   3  | 7  5  2  | 6   49  89   |
 
| 278 256* 57 | 9  36 4  | 1   25  2378 |
 
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| 5   3    2  | 4  9  1  | 8   7   6    |
 
| 6   19   4  | 3  8  7  | 29  129 5    |
 
| 19  7    8  | 56 2  56 | 4   3   19   |
 
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At this point in the puzzle, using 'HINT' results in r6c2 = '6'.
 
Is it possible to learn the reasoning behind the clue given by 'HINT'?
 
 
Ema Nymton
 
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		peterj
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:34 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Ema, I don't know if the "hint" button gives you a "logical solver" next step or just picks a cell to give you the answer to!
 
 
But in row 4 you have a naked triple 237 which makes r4c5=6 and so r6c2=6.. | 
			 
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		Pat
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:10 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				or i'd say,
 
in r4 there's a "hidden" duo {4,5}
 
-- which solves the 6 for c2 | 
			 
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		Marty R.
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The XY-Wing also works as an 891, pivoted in r5c9; r9c1<>1.
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Ema, I don't know if the "hint" button gives you a "logical solver" next step or just picks a cell to give you the answer to!  | 	  
 
Peter, the hints are based on a logical step. | 
			 
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