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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Set XY_01 Puzzle 10 |   |  
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				|  	  | Code: |  	  | +-----------------------+ | 9 8 . | . 5 . | . 2 . |
 | 6 3 5 | 9 . . | . 8 . |
 | . 4 7 | . . . | . 9 . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . 2 . | . . 6 | . . . |
 | 5 . . | . 4 . | . 6 . |
 | . . . | 1 . 7 | . . . |
 |-------+-------+-------|
 | . . . | . . . | 4 . . |
 | 4 7 8 | . 9 . | . 5 3 |
 | . . . | . . . | . 7 9 |
 +-----------------------+
 
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		| wapati 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| This one is tough yet  looks easy. 
 I used a UR, skyscraper, and W-wing to get to an easy looking markup.  Hah!
 
 I finally found a stretched W-wing that worked enough to get me to a BUG.
 
 Whew!
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		| gindaani 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I don't like to use UR. 
 I could not find a "normal" xy-chain.
 
 I found
 (7)r2c7 =  ((7=2)r5c7 = (2=6)r8c7) - (26=8)r9c7 - (28=6)r9c5 = (6=1)r3c5 = (1=7)r2c5
 
 since r2 cannot have 2 7s, r2c7<>7.  This solves the puzzle.
 
 I tried in vain to turn that into a xy-chain to eliminate 7 from r2c7 or 1 from r2c5.  Because of the 268 interactions at the bottom, the chain only flows in one direction.
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:42 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | gindaani wrote: |  	  | I don't like to use UR. 
 I could not find a "normal" xy-chain.
 
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 If you don't like URs, then this puzzle probably isn't going to (reasonably) reduce to the XY-Chain/BUG+3 that I found to finish it off. In fact, all of the various techniques that I used seem to help get to the final step. Happy Friday!
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I think this is the wildest puzzle I have ever solved, assuming I did not mess up one particular step. 
 I started with the UR69, then a finned x-wing on digit <2>, <6>, and <8>, and a xyz 268. At this point I was stuck for a long time. I finally notice a conjugate pair on <7> & <8> that shared a common cell and I was then able to form a chain as follows:
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | *-----------------------------------------------------------* | 9     8     1     | 367   5     4     | 367   2     67    |
 | 6     3     5     | 9     d17   2     | e17   8     4     |
 | 2     4     7     | 36    16    8     | 135   9     156   |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 7     2     49    | 5     38    6     | 189   34    18    |
 | 5     1     3     | a28   4     9     | f27   6     278   |
 | 8     6     49    | 1     23    7     | 59    34    25    |
 |-------------------+-------------------+-------------------|
 | 3     9     26    | b2678 c678  5     | 4     1     268   |
 | 4     7     8     | 26    9     1     | 26    5     3     |
 | 1     5     26    | 4     268   3     | 268   7     9     |
 *-----------------------------------------------------------*
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 If a=2, then
 b=8 (strong link 8 col4)
 c=7 (strong link 7 row7)
 d=1,
 e=7,
 f=2 which is a conflict with the original assumption; r5c4<>2
 
 (I am unsure how to notate this using Eureka but here is an attempt. I would appreciate anyone providing the "proper" form.
 
 (2-8 )a  = (8-7)b = (7)c - (7=1)d - (1=7)e - (7=2)f; a<>2
 
 After cleanup, I had the following code with a "possible" BUG+3 condition.
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | *--------------------------------------------------* | 9    8    1    | 67   5    4    | 3    2    67   |
 | 6    3    5    | 9    17   2    | 17   8    4    |
 | 2    4    7    | 3    16   8    | 5    9    16   |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 7    2    9    | 5    3    6    | 18   4    18   |
 | 5    1    3    | 8    4    9    | 27   6    27   |
 | 8    6    4    | 1    2    7    | 9    3    5    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 3    9    26   | 267  678  5    | 4    1    28   |
 | 4    7    8    | 26   9    1    | 26   5    3    |
 | 1    5    26   | 4    68   3    | 268  7    9    |
 *--------------------------------------------------*
 
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 All houses contain two occurrences of a digit except box89. In box9, setting r9c7=2 prevents the DP. In box8, setting either r7c45=6 satisfies the constraint of two occurrences in the rows and columns but digit <6> occurs four times in the box. Is this a valid BUG condition? If valid, then setting any of the three conditions forces r8c7=6. This results in a valid BUG+1 which solves the puzzle.
 
 Ted
       
 [Edit daj95376: made Eureka chain readable. It appeared correct to me.]
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		| wapati 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I got to your position and looked for a BUG3 also.  Box 9 was the problem. 
 I then saw an almost W-wing as follows.
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | *--------------------------------------------------* | 9    8    1    |*67   5    4    | 3    2    67   |
 | 6    3    5    | 9   *17   2    |*17   8    4    |
 | 2    4    7    | 3    16   8    | 5    9    16   |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 7    2    9    | 5    3    6    | 18   4    18   |
 | 5    1    3    | 8    4    9    |#27   6    27   |
 | 8    6    4    | 1    2    7    | 9    3    5    |
 |----------------+----------------+----------------|
 | 3    9    26   | 267  678  5    | 4    1    28   |
 | 4    7    8    | 2-6  9    1    |#26   5    3    |
 | 1    5    26   | 4    68   3    | 268  7    9    |
 *--------------------------------------------------*
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 The two cells marked "#" combine to make the expected "67".
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		| daj95376 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:07 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | tlanglet wrote: |  	  | All houses contain two occurrences of a digit except box89. In box9, setting r9c7=2 prevents the DP. In box8, setting either r7c45=6 satisfies the constraint of two occurrences in the rows and columns but digit <6> occurs four times in the box. Is this a valid BUG condition? If valid, then setting any of the three conditions forces r8c7=6. This results in a valid BUG+1 which solves the puzzle. 
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 Ted: I mistakenly thought this was a BUG+3 as well.
   
 After reading wapati's comment, I went back and reviewed the grid. For there to be a BUG after removing the critical candidates, we need ...
 
 1) solved cells plus ...
 2) bivalue cells plus ...
 3) each candidate occurs exactly twice in a house/unit
 
 If we remove the <6>s in [r7c45] and the <2> in [r9c7], we still have three <2>s in [r7] -- which negates rule (3) for the BUG condition. Too bad because the eliminations worked!!!
 
 [Addendum: besides XY-Chain]
 
 
  	  | Code: |  	  | <26> DP in [band 3]: [r7c4]=7 or [r9c7]=8 must be true 
 [r7c4]<>7 => [r7c34]=26 => [r7c9]=8 => [r9c8]<>8 => contradiction!
 
 [r7c4]= 7 => Singles
 +-----------------------------------------------------+
 |  9    8    1    |  67   5    4    |  3    2    67   |
 |  6    3    5    |  9    17   2    |  17   8    4    |
 |  2    4    7    |  3    16   8    |  5    9    16   |
 |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------|
 |  7    2    9    |  5    3    6    |  18   4    18   |
 |  5    1    3    |  8    4    9    |  27   6    27   |
 |  8    6    4    |  1    2    7    |  9    3    5    |
 |-----------------+-----------------+-----------------|
 |  3    9   *26   | *26+7 678  5    |  4    1    28   |
 |  4    7    8    | *26   9    1    | *26   5    3    |
 |  1    5   *26   |  4    86   3    | *26+8 7    9    |
 +-----------------------------------------------------+
 # 22 eliminations remain
 
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		| tlanglet 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Great move Danny   
 Ted
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